1959 Berkeley T60 Motorsport 3 wheeler.

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1959 Berkeley T60 Motorsport 3 wheeler.

Postby Hal Mercier » Sat May 11, 2019 6:49 pm

Yep, you read it right.

I have recently trailered this thing back from Javea, Spain, to aid a good buddy. It's now in the barn here.

He had the thing in the UK, and decided to do something unusual with it, so took it to one of the many small race preparation placed in the Sarf of England. They removed the body, and built an entirely new, fully adjustable motorsport chassis on a tuned 1275 Mini Metro front end. Metro rear trailing arm as well.

I was commissioned to build a bonnet that covers the projecting engine and also looks good..... :shock:

After getting it off the trailer I decided that to be anything, I needed to dump the horrible original skinny steel 12" Metro wheels and fit 13" Minilites so that's what I'm doing.....though I may need to use 12" ones...

Got the thing running and it sounds like a full race unit.

I don't have any way to reduce the weight of pix on this laptop....and just failed to download a useful program....grrrrr.

My buddy paid £20,000 for the work done.....I will either sell it and pay myself back, or buy it at a VERY preferential price.....I do think it's be a barrel of laffs in Historic Rallying....ok 'regularity' events but whatever.
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Re: 1959 Berkeley T60 Motorsport 3 wheeler.

Postby whitehillbillies » Sat May 11, 2019 9:42 pm

Googled it.
Nice looking 'Thing'

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Re: 1959 Berkeley T60 Motorsport 3 wheeler.

Postby Hal Mercier » Sun May 12, 2019 12:48 am

Ah WHB, Ya ain't seen nothin yet! Most of the pix on the web are either the original, unadulterated car, which has a teeny-weeny 2 or 3 pot 2 stroke smoker engine, with the original narrow track.

Many of the mini engined cars have been made so the top of the engine doesn't break the bonnet line, which makes them look stupidly high on the suspension and must have a dire effect on handling.

THIS is the problem.....Image

This isn't my car....it's a rare fixed-head version, mine has wider track than this and is Old English White. Just look at how high the SU carb is on this one though.....mine has much better headlamp treatment too. Looks ugly on this blue one.

The one I have here looks way more radical than even the motorsport ones visible on the web....very low, Escort Mk 1 Rally bubble arches, the Metro front is way wider than stock mini, so with 5.5J Minilite rims I've been obliged to cut the arches and now have to somehow blend them back so they look convincing....same as I need to do with the cutaway bonnet panel. It looks much like an insane three-wheeled AC Cobra 427. I will register it here as a 60 year old 'Historic car' cough-cough....

My buddy specified he wanted a special hardtop with removable centre panels. I though "Oh NO!!!" when he first explained this, but surprisingly, it looks fantastic, somehow totally original 1950s Brit small manufacture jobby, though Berkeley never made it with removable centre panels.

I'll post pix when I can get PhotoImpact on this laptop so you'll see just how cute, though vicious, it looks.

It's good for well over 100mph with wild acceleration from the FWD and only 400kg I should reckon....original cars are less.

Being that it's now living here, I'm plagued with absurd problems, it goes without saying....I removed the rocker box top for machine polishing (it's alloy) and dropped one of the two special seal bolts into the front of the engine bay. In two months, despite jacking the thing right up, and searching with powerful lights, stick magnets etc by various people, it has managed to stay disappeared!

Now, the steering lock has decided to refuse to unlock, the clutch master cylinder piston seems to be stuck in the full pedal down position....it's a new Willwood pedal box, less than 2000 miles on it...explanations gratefully received!

I found that Blaze, who built the chassis, probably used different offset wheels when they set up the geometry, and clearly did this with the body off.

The rear wheel was slightly offset to left of the centreline, and I've had a difficult job getting this right, with the 8" Minilite rim I'm using on the back. So far I'm on the third new rear axle spindle!!! At least with this one it's more or less fully adjustable, but replacing the left support bracket was hampered by the realisation that with the body on, I couldn't drill the needed new holes in the rear crossmember......so I had to hack a section out of the body/rear wheel surround. Not the painted exterior of course.

I will be dumping the existing twin 1.25" SU carbs for a single Weber/DellOrto sidedraft twinchoke DCOE40, which sits much lower, helping with the bonnet line....also easier to keep properly tuned.

I hear the DellOrto DHLA40, which looks like a Weber, is better in many ways than the Weber, so that's what I'll use if possible.

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Fun fun fun. ;)
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Re: 1959 Berkeley T60 Motorsport 3 wheeler.

Postby Hal Mercier » Sun May 12, 2019 1:10 am

Ooops! I've run out of editing possibilities and that pic was far bigger than I thought....sorry!

Trying again.....

These racers seem to be using 10" wheels with low profile Avon race tyres....I may be obliged to do this though I want to keep the 13" wheels....as it'll be regularity rallying, not circuit racing.


Dunno why I can't enter the image, but they are on this Flickr account.... https://www.flickr.com/photos/40760789@ ... 867945174/
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Re: 1959 Berkeley T60 Motorsport 3 wheeler.

Postby Grunt » Sun May 12, 2019 9:26 am

I’ve often thought about selling my bikes and getting a classic three wheeler. Morgan’s are way beyond my price range so not being spoilt for choice that realistically only leaves kit cars. There a Berkeley doer upper on the inter web with a 400cc Yamaha engine for £2800, I might run it past the current Mrs Grunt and see what she thinks. Thing is we both hate the smell of fibre glass.

Is that Ribble Head viaduct in your train pics.
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Re: 1959 Berkeley T60 Motorsport 3 wheeler.

Postby Hal Mercier » Sun May 12, 2019 1:11 pm

Train pix?

Fibreglass doesn't smell unless you are laminating it! ;) The doer-upper sounds great! A 400 Yam motor should propel it better than original, and be way more reliable.

As a lot of the original ones were 3 cylinder smokers I did imagineer a 750 Quakker 3 in one....that'd be really quick, but not have lumps spoiling the bonnet line....nice. But thirsty.

Which Yam engine is it, a twin? Smoker or 4 stroke? What power?

I had a look, I see what you mean about GRP smells now! Looks do-able too. You'd be more popular with the owner's club than my buddy....I think they called him a 'barbarian' for giving the thing to Blaze for such a radical transformation....for which he paid £20,000 on top of the purchase of the car!

It's unique.

I have a French wench who reckons she can navigate for regularity coming down next weekend to see if we can both fit in it. Beware, three-wheelers tend to be more cramped, as for one up driving, obviously the driver's weight needs to be as close to the lateral centreline as possible. I find my elbow and left shoulder is somewhere over the passenger seat, and I'm not Obelix by any means....I've not yet tried to fit two of us in it!

I noticed the pax seat is slightly further back than the driver's, maybe this helps?
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Re: 1959 Berkeley T60 Motorsport 3 wheeler.

Postby Grunt » Mon May 13, 2019 7:19 am

Train pix?
To the right of the MV in your bike pics.

I ran it past the chief cook and bottle washer, she persuaded me it’s not such a good idea, she’s right which is normal. But will look again when shed four is built and the bikes are sold and will see what will fit in the shed and what we can afford.

In my head I’d put a Hayabusa engine in it!
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Re: 1959 Berkeley T60 Motorsport 3 wheeler.

Postby Hal Mercier » Mon May 13, 2019 2:40 pm

Grunt wrote:
Train pix?
To the right of the MV in your bike pics.

I ran it past the chief cook and bottle washer, she persuaded me it’s not such a good idea, she’s right which is normal. But will look again when shed four is built and the bikes are sold and will see what will fit in the shed and what we can afford.

In my head I’d put a Hayabusa engine in it!


Busa would be the ultimate and better fuel consumption....if the OE box could take the torque, you'd even have a reverse gear. This is the good thing with the mini/metro unit, it has its own gearbox.
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