'49 TED overhaul

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Re: '49 TED overhaul

Postby John V » Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:21 pm

Steveolew wrote:Thanks John, when you rebuilt your gearbox did you find more noise if you turned it the opposite way to its normal direction of rotation?


To be honest Steve I didn't take note of any noise but can recall on the first turn you could just hear the input shaft engage it's opposite cog.I lubed up all the gears,cogs,bearings with grease on assembly so noise would be to a minimum. The only bit of panic I had with the first gearbox I built was getting the gears as with no oil in their it was stiff but freed up once oil was introduced. Was their oil in their when you noticed the noise?.I would imagine if your shimmed up with the correct preload it should be fine.From memory in the manual i think it says to set preload on the shafts before gears are installed,whether this would have much bearing on the final outcome,I don't know.I drove for miles on one gearbox I built with no problems,the other will be driving soon.
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Re: '49 TED overhaul

Postby Grunt » Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:42 pm

Rather than retapping the hole, how about fitting a stud that bottoms out in the hole so it uses all the thread and fitting a nut to it. Or fitting a helicoil, I believe they are available in UNC sizes.
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Re: '49 TED overhaul

Postby Steveolew » Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:06 am

John the only things I have done to the gearbox was to change the input shaft oil seal and I used gasket paper of similar thickness to what came out, and was to grease up the selector shafts and springs and to turn the gears around and look for missing teeth etc.
Grunt, I'm not a huge fan of helicoils I know they can work but I would have tap the hole to fit one so I will have a look to see if like John said a 12mm will do and make a stud with 7/16 on the other end.....well thats the plan at this moment.
Any idea what the hole in the bell housing is for?
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Re: '49 TED overhaul

Postby Grunt » Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:58 am

I know what you mean about helicoils, somehow they just don’t seem right. I have used them successfully a few times and have come across instances where they’ve been used dozens of times, but the mistrust is still there.

I can’t think of an explanation for the hole, neither of mine has one.
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Re: '49 TED overhaul

Postby John V » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:14 am

Steveolew wrote:John the only things I have done to the gearbox was to change the input shaft oil seal and I used gasket paper of similar thickness to what came out, and was to grease up the selector shafts and springs and to turn the gears around and look for missing teeth etc.
Grunt, I'm not a huge fan of helicoils I know they can work but I would have tap the hole to fit one so I will have a look to see if like John said a 12mm will do and make a stud with 7/16 on the other end.....well thats the plan at this moment.
Any idea what the hole in the bell housing is for?

I don’t think you will have a problem so if it was ok before.
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Re: '49 TED overhaul

Postby Steveolew » Tue May 22, 2018 6:20 am

Finally got the front back together and standing on 4 wheels
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Stripped all the bonnet bits down de rusted took all the big dents out etc. Big thanks to Grunt for the wing he sent me, but because what I have has hit many immovable objects over the years the replacement wing would not fit without trying to beat it into submission so I removed the bracket and got within a 1/8 of fitting the bonnet.
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It looks like a combination of the front end being pushed in and the new rad meant the grill just touched, I dont have the skill to reshape the curve of the front so I will have to remove a bit of the grill and see how it goes......
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Re: '49 TED overhaul

Postby Grunt » Tue May 22, 2018 7:19 am

Big thanks to Grunt for the win
glad to be of help.

When you finally get the bonnet fitted can I suggest you locktite the pivot bolts in. I lost one of mine a few weeks ago and didnt realise until I opened the bonnet. The weight of the bonnet on one bolt ended up tearing the steel round it. I suppose the opening and closing action made the bolt work loose.
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Re: '49 TED overhaul

Postby Steveolew » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:03 pm

A bit of an up date......
what a brilliant summer( for us)
Painted a few bits
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Then I had to think about the wiring, I've rebuilt the alternator that was on the tractor when I bought it but it was not mounted very well and needs a proper bracket making so decided to fit the dynamo that I had already referbished and knew it worked along with the control box, but this meant putting it somewhere
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I know the purists wont approve but hey its my tractor.... and my theory is I have not made any extra holes so if I change things I can put the tool box back ...but the tool box had been put on the rear wing that to me is a better place.
Next was the rear end,
the usual 60 years of dirt pic
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and afterwards

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all of the hydraulic pump parts were in really good shape, but for what I paid for a complete rebuild kit I had to do it
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the real shame was the cylinder, the bore was really good just needed new piston rings but all four feet had broken
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stripped everything else down, I could not move the main shaft but as there was no real play I didn't think it was worth having the shaft pressed out
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next was the rear axle and brakes
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now i might be a little critical here but if the last person had not put over 30 litres of oil in the attempt of stopping the leak with ptfe may of worked.......I forgot to photo the other side ( head was in hands at this point) they had decided that no shims and a new cardboard gasket would be good, so this took a few attempts and some shims to get around 5 thou play.
I have not the means to fit original seals so fitted new sure seals
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now I would like to thank the people who I have bought many parts from and staid with for paint so as to keep the same colour, but it seems the arsehole who could not read my email making sure they knew what I wanted sent either a different manufacture or just got it wrong but I ended up with a really nice shade of grey rear end that was no where near the rest, I found out that under the label the paint was from spencer coatings who were good to deal with I can now paint stuff the right colour,I think the rear is still not right,maybe the colour bleeding through(maybe not right to name them as I should have double checked the tin)
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Got new mudguards and when fitting felt they needed pulling in a bit more and drilled a extra hole without thinking so this is the de luxe version.....
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did the insides with stonechip first
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Then it was wiring time.....
I like fuses..

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I was hesitant about using 16mm for the starter motor but as it hardly runs it seems fine...
Made some bracket for the rear lights, still thinking about the plough light bracket
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I had mentioned to John earlier about a strange noise from the gearbox area, to day I starter her for the first time and found out what it was

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it's a little out of focus and shape but when it sheared this off and it dropped underneath you can imagine how my heart sank until I saw what it was this was to keep the hole under the clutch clear but it must of stuck up a little too much, never showed any intention of touching when I was turning things before bolting back together.
So today I fired her up, started almost instantly, I had put the pressure regulator back as found and was running 90 psi so had a couple of small leaks from the pressure gauge banjo and the blank next to it, wound the screw out so now its around 50 psi and found the new rad leaks
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I've run her up to temp a couple of times so will re torque the head next then I need to tune the carb, it fires up instantly but on a fast tickover and cannot slow it down yet..
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Re: '49 TED overhaul

Postby Fergymal » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:56 pm

Steveolew wrote:I know the purists wont approve but hey its my tractor.

I think you will find that most on this forum agrees with this.
Good job you are doing. Good photos. Well done
Cheers. Malcolm
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